Quick review
I have considered the handover of C81 to SA to be the most single most important problem in this cryonics case. I have a feeling that something isn't right with it. C81 was not an SA client-- and at the last minute, the son who is not signed up with CI or any cryonics firm, had the ability to sign off on giving CI president Ben Best permission to call SA in on the case, which Ben promptly did after getting a reduced rate from SA-- ostensibly because there was no standby. The pricing for SA cases is clearly stated however and standby is extra anyway.
Ideal CI case lost to SA
This entire case involved one of the best set of circumstances of all recent otherwise "messy" CI cases-- C81 was fully funded and lived within a reasonable distance of the CI lab. This should have been a CI managed cryonic suspension-- especially since C81 had attended the SA conference with his son and NOT signed up. Ben wrote, in his report, that only C81 knows why he didn't sign up, but this is clearly not credible. Certainly the son would know too, but the son chooses to remain anonymous for personal privacy reasons-- a perfect cover.
Pricing factor suspicious
SHarris wrote, in CF, that it's possible that SA pricing played a role but even if that's true, it doesn't explain why SA dropped the price at the last minute for this particular case. Ben writes that it would be good for SA-- among others-- since they hadn't had a case in a while. What is a CI cryonics member, however? A basketball? To be bounced around for practise? The price drop isn't given in detail even though the CI site clearly states the SA pricing, where standby is extra. The fact that SA had to travel the extra 1600 miles in a set of comlicated manuevres put C81 at higher risk than he had to be for quick cooldown after deanimation, compared to what might have been the case had CI handled the case-- a case well within the reasaonable reach of the CI lab and local CI support services.
How would CI have fared?
The question of how good CI's local situation is comes into focus here and I'll zero in on that soon, along with the history of its local capability.
Why was C81 turned over to SA, really?
I'm not satisfied with the reasons given for the turnover of this CI contract to SA-- and I'm highly suspicious of SA and the motives of Saul and Bill with regard to SA. I don't understand why it exists in the first place, given saul and bill are member of alcor, like me. MMaxim has raised serious questions about SA that puts things in an entirely different light than the advertised one. SHarris's argument is that they can do what they want with their money, but that argument ignores the basic overarching ethical consideration that we're all in this together and we owe each other some modicum of explanation for privateer-type moanuevres that affect the entire cryonics industry.
Did C81 have a will?
This morning, given this background, I ask "What would C81 have had to have done to be sure that CI processed his dead body locally?"... or "Did C81 have a will? Would a will specifying CI preserve him have made a difference?".
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SA Inc-- C81 case-- handover not right (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- ATP used or not? (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- CI's report on handover (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- FD asks did C81 want local (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- handover of C81-- board approval? (1)
SA inc-- C81-- Handover-- CI bylaws thin (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- handover-- no objection by members (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- Handover-- would a will have stopped it?
SA Inc-- C81-- Harris defends CI handover to SA. (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- Harris's overview summary (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it? (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- illegit (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- pull the plug decision may be wrong (1)
SA Inc-- C81-- takin care of business (1)
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- 000-- 08-21-07-- Aerogel and world situation (1)
- 21CM (1)
- 21CM-- finance-- follow the money starting at 21CM-- cryonics (1)
- 21CM-- formulas-- 4 (1)
- 21cm-- New building. (1)
- 21CM-- patents-- numerous patents filed. (1)
- 21CM-- rabbit kidney 2005-- vitrification formula-- Alcor formula (1)
- 21CM-- rabbit kidney transplant 2005-- overlooked (1)
- 21CM-- Saul Kent-- kingpin (1)
- A-- C81-- personnel-- one anonymous made everyone anonymous (1)
- Alcor billing screw-up-- continues. (1)
- Alcor billing-- 02-- Steve Jackson goes public (1)
- Alcor Blog-- Chana deWolf-- interesting blog post-- 08-31-07 (1)
- Alcor blog-- Chana deWolf-- post gone (1)
- Alcor blog-- Chapman points to Newsweek article (1)
- Alcor blog-- Extensive reporting-- board meeting (1)
- Alcor conference-- blogs-- speakers should have blogs (1)
- Alcor conference-- Harris's topic not tight enough (1)
- Alcor Conference-- Oct. conf. features Bridge-- (1)
- Alcor conference-- promo not academic (1)
- Alcor conference-- speakers vs. blogging (1)
- Alcor- homepage (1)
- Alcor- Why have a conference Nov 2007? (1)
- Alcor-- 08-23-08-- renumbered conferences (1)
- Alcor-- billing bungling (1)
- Alcor-- blog-- chapman conference notice (1)
- Alcor-- board meeting June 30 (1)
- Alcor-- Canadian case-- funding problem-- (1)
- Alcor-- conference-- renumbered? (1)
- Alcor-- end of life optin-- not life extension (1)
- Alcor-- heart lung machine vs. Alcor perfusion equip (1)
- Alcor-- last online case report 2004 (1)
- Alcor-- Paid speaker program mistake. (1)
- Alcor-- Pancake disappears into black box (1)
- Alcor-- prepare for conference in Oct. (1)
- Alcor-- preparedness 08-31-07 (1)
- Alcor-- procedures (1)
- Alcor-- readiness personnel in question (1)
- Alcor-- renumbered conferences? (1)
- Alcor-- rescue team personnel (1)
- Alcor-- team members (1)
- Alcor-- threat of cancelled membership or non-rescue (1)
- Alcor-- weather in Scottsale (1)
- Alcorx-- Stumpx 2003-- Rediculous conversation (1)
- artifact storage (1)
- Ashes in space (1)
- atp use (1)
- attacked again 18-- mistake oops (1)
- Attacked again-- 05-- Nature of attack (1)
- Attacked again-- 06-- Classical SuperHumanism is unassailable. (1)
- Attacked again-- 07-- Practicality vs. Principle (1)
- Attacked again-- 08-- No joke (1)
- Attacked again-- 09-02-07-- Close blog to public (1)
- Attacked again-- 09-03-07-- end of frozen files (1)
- Attacked again-- 10-- test (1)
- Attacked again-- 11-- Issue becomes forced censorship (1)
- Attacked again-- 11.-- Thought control-- nanotech- immortality- Larouche (1)
- Attacked again-- 12-- final warning (1)
- Attacked again-- 14-- Psychological battle (1)
- Attacked again-- 14-- YouSendIt-- why did attacker use this? (1)
- Attacked again-- 15-- Attacker most upset with blog alerts (1)
- Attacked again-- 15-- ccryonics (1)
- Attacked again-- 17-- Might be enough to leave world affairs etc out of this (1)
- Attacked again-- 19-- I'm called a martyr for using cryonicsx. (1)
- Attacked again-- 20-- cryos remain out of touch (1)
- Attacked again-- 21-- Under seige (1)
- Attacked again-- 22-- Now the entire ColdFilter forum under threat by Matt (1)
- Attacked again-- closed blog-- good thing (1)
- Attacked again-- martyr (1)
- Attacked again-- renewed vigor on closed forum (1)
- Attacked again-- start over. 09-01-07 (1)
- Attacked again--13 -- one reader? (1)
- Attacked again--16-- Completion of the quarter (1)
- Attention direction-- blogs (1)
- Attention Steering-- Cold Filter and FD (1)
- Attention Steering-- Psychocybernetics (1)
- Audrey Smith-- cryopreservation pioneer didn't preserver herself (1)
- Australia-- Phil Rhoades-- 01-- reason for being in rural area (1)
- Autopsy-- Venturist religious objection (1)
- autopsy-- Venturist- card complete-- online? (1)
- Bacteria (1)
- Banned-- Flogging-- I even got banned for flogging (1)
- Ben Best-- contempt (1)
- Blog Design 07-14-07-- Newest design higlites alpha index. (1)
- blog mechanics-- 08-20-07-- returning visitors (1)
- BLOG MECHANICS-- Alphabetical index-- Ettinger used keywords from the beginning. (1)
- Blog mechanics-- click on month for daily digest. (1)
- Blog mechanics-- connected forum. (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counter (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counter-- 100 hits day 2 (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counter-- tiny counter one count per ip (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counters (1)
- blog mechanics-- counters all crappy (1)
- Blog mechanics-- Countesr-- first day35 (1)
- Blog mechanics-- FeedBlitz (1)
- Blog mechanics-- Google blogsearch lists BonHomme's Quarterly (1)
- Blog mechanics-- latest post viewing (1)
- BLOG MECHANICS-- Network54 to change-- Abandon it. (1)
- blog mechanics-- pdf (1)
- Blog mechanics-- pdf download (1)
- Blog mechanics-- podcast of this blog (1)
- blog mechanics-- returning visitors (1)
- blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- 4.5 (1)
- Blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- Bravenet graphs (1)
- Blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- hostile (1)
- Blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- hostile-- no truth (1)
- Blog mechanics-- threaded forum linked discussion (1)
- Blog mechanics-- work area (1)
- Blog writing-- Indexing-- How to use date stamps to log a story line. (1)
- Blog-- Contribute to this blog. (1)
- Bloggers amenable to cryonics-- Matus1976-- hypothermic medicine 08-31-07 (1)
- Bloggers amenable to cryonics-- Teri (1)
- blogging-- bigwheels who should blog (1)
- Blogging-- philosophy-- discussion is a distraction (1)
- blogology (1)
- blogs 07-14-07-- CI head cooling box. (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists- anonymous (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Aschwin and Chana-- technical cryoncis blog (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Mark Plus (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Mark Plus-- Atheism (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Mark Plus-- Comment on Zionism please. (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Melody Maxim (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Robert Ettinger. (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Steven B. Harris (1)
- Blogs by pro-cryonics people-- Christian cryonics (1)
- Blogs by pro-cryonics people-- Unsane-- fear life (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics cynically-- in strict literal God context (1)
- blogs that mention cryonics favorabley-- Malanie Swan (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- GoodLifeGifts (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- Joreth (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- quistian zaine (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- V.R. Manoj (1)
- Blogs the mention cryonics favorably-- Melina Chok (1)
- Blogs-- attention direction (1)
- Blogs-- Frozen Files-- Spring 2007 (1)
- blogs-- google blogsearch under 'cryonics' (1)
- blogs-- primary source of sovereign mind thought (1)
- Blood subsitutes-- Biotime-- whatever happened to... (1)
- Blood substitutes-- plastic blood (1)
- Bob nelson-- update please. (1)
- brain damage-- Ben Best article (1)
- brainwave church-- 1.-- Invitation (1)
- brainwave control-- anna wise-- mind mirror (1)
- C81 (1)
- C81-- visualization of the brain-- Harris-- Zewacki (1)
- CADC (1)
- Cancer-- suppressed cure (1)
- cannulae issue-- see SA-- cannulae (1)
- Case reporting (1)
- case studies (1)
- Cases-- 2007 (1)
- Catholic church-- cryonics takeover (1)
- Center of cryonics-- where is it? (1)
- CF-- 01-- Ads (1)
- CF-- Ads (1)
- CF-- George-- oversight (1)
- CF--01-- Latest rounds by Maxim (1)
- chemrails (1)
- Christian cryonics-- blogger (1)
- Christian cryonics-- Jesus would have supported cryonics (1)
- CI-- Ben Best's article for local gropus (1)
- CI-- C81 critique and response (1)
- CI-- case 83 (1)
- CI-- field washout (1)
- CI-- mortician based program destroyed. (1)
- CI-- needs SA (1)
- CI-- playing catch up with SA (1)
- Classical FutureHumanism-- 00. Intro. (2)
- Classical Humanism-- cryonics (1)
- Classical Immortality-- physical AND Classical immortality go hand in hand. (1)
- Classical SuperHumanism-- a new context for cryonics (1)
- Classical Superhumanism-- CPlatt on Superhumanism (1)
- Classical SuperHumanism-- Google search (1)
- classroom-- cryonics education process-- cold (1)
- Cold Filter-- 000-- ENTER (1)
- Cold Filter-- 01-- Forum under legal threat by Matt Sullivan (1)
- Cold Filter-- cryonics discussion forum observations (1)
- Cold Filter-- FD-- Overview of Alcor-SA-NOT Ci (1)
- Cold Filter-- Hinek-- Mark Plus-- deletes link to MP blog-- 01-- what gives (1)
- Cold Filter-- Maxim-- SA site needs updating (1)
- Cold Filter-- messy-- alphablog organize-- Network54 (1)
- Cold Filter-- not a general discussion but rather FD controlled space (1)
- Comedy-- Lewis Black (1)
- computerized perfusion-- Maxim vs. FPatrol-- 7-10-07 (1)
- Context for Cryonics1-- A Universal History of Mankind and Radical Prolongevity (1)
- Context-- 01-- impossible to look at cryonicsx without context (1)
- Context-- Political philosophy for cryonics. (1)
- CPB bypass-- video (1)
- Critical Care Phase-- oxygen (1)
- Critical Care Reearch-- nothing on homepage (1)
- Cryonet Blog Lessons-- 1. Google blogsearch under keyword cryonics by date. (1)
- Cryonet Blog Lessons--2.-- Gina Miller posts her blog link to Cryonet (1)
- Cryonet blog lessons--3.-- Link to my blog (1)
- CryoNet-- Alpha-blog attack link post (1)
- CryoNet-- as blog (1)
- CryoNet-- latest archive page-- Google blogsearch on cryonics (1)
- CryoNet-- obsolete-- vacant (1)
- CryoNet-- PhilOssifur posts from 2006 still useful. (1)
- Cryonicists are not Anti-Zionist. (1)
- Cryonics Industry Moniter 07-14-07-- Alcor Conference Nov. (1)
- Cryonics Institute-- John Bull-- Cryonet (1)
- cryonics messenger (1)
- cryonics worldview (1)
- crystal coffins-- Mao and Brezhnev (1)
- Dave Pizer-- Property sale next to Creekside (1)
- Dave Pizer-- Stupid questions (1)
- death orientiation-- cryonics not death-oriented enough (1)
- death-- peaceful death scenes (1)
- Disappearing cryos-- Bill Voice- Michelle Fry (1)
- drop SA (1)
- Economics-- Larouche-- Will cryonics survive the coming crash? (1)
- Editorial-- 07-23-07 (1)
- END OF FROZEN FILES-- This is the last post. (1)
- End-of-life issues-- cryonics as (1)
- End-of-Life Planning-- 1.-- Truthful perspective of cryonics requires deathist thinking. (1)
- Engineering-- Ancient Engineers- L.Sprague de Camp (1)
- Ettinger-- CF post-- 8-31-07 (1)
- Ettinger-- fraudulent comment on pricing (1)
- example (1)
- EXERCISE-- Powerpulse self-experimen (1)
- Fahy (1)
- FD-- Alcor focus misdirection (1)
- FD-- Alcor SA and Kent - 08-31-07 (1)
- FD-- control agent should be avoided (1)
- FD-- debate ender-- who appointed him/her? (1)
- FD-- gatekeeper (1)
- FD-- git er done-- debate ender (1)
- FD-- look after myself only (1)
- FD-- malignment of blogs (1)
- FD-- nobody reads Frozen Files (1)
- FD-- Save the data-- drop the ideas (1)
- FD-- sharper attack roundup. (1)
- FD-- upset over blogs (1)
- feedblitz-- registered readers still getting this (1)
- Fellow Cryonicist-- harm-- Larouche (1)
- Females-- alien lifeform detected (1)
- FINAL POST-- New idea. (1)
- Finance-- World situation is OMINOUS-- THE END IS NEAR (1)
- Fitness-- abdominal muscles-- situps? thebean? (1)
- Flavinoid-- refers to Phil's Classical Future Humanism. (1)
- Flouridation-- What is LEF/KFC position?-- cryonicists? (1)
- Frozen Files-- Winter 2007 (1)
- fully funded-- definition (1)
- Futureneer 07-14-07-- Lobster Summit (1)
- Gatekeeper-- twisted-- calls my blog twisted and pleads for me to stop (1)
- Google blogsearch under keyword 'cryonics' (1)
- Google blogsearch-- cryonics 8-8-07 (1)
- Google blogserach-- cryonics-- reminder (1)
- Harris etc hard to track. (1)
- Harris-- 01-- C81 revelationst to come (1)
- harris-- 02-- supplied SA cannulae?? (1)
- harris-- 03-- thought SA had a perfusionist-- but after Maxim left?? (1)
- harris-- 04-- laying foundation for his defense (1)
- harris-- 05-- wasn't asked vs. worry (1)
- harris-- 06-- pins cannulae problem on maxim (1)
- harris-- 07-- nobody allowed to open kits ex. kelly (1)
- harris-- 08-- Maxim banded proper cannulae to put in kits (1)
- harris-- 09-- maxim points to cannulae in other cases (1)
- harris-- 10-- tried to trip Maxim up by naming surgeons in a cryo forum (1)
- harris-- 11-- Amazing round in CF (1)
- Harris-- 12-- Accuses Maxim merely of trying to damage SA as ex-employee (1)
- Harris-- 13-- cannulae-- maxim's responsibility despite being gone 5 mos. (1)
- Harris-- 14-- Answering tech questions with fewer insults (1)
- Harris-- 15-- In contempt of reason (1)
- Harris-- alphabetical order (1)
- Harris-- being played by Cplatt (1)
- Harris-- C81-- ATP abuse-- pressure-- damaged brain (1)
- Harris-- C81-- burrhole (1)
- Harris-- C81-- handover (1)
- Harris-- C81-- on services not contracted for (1)
- Harris-- C81-- still trying to figure out what happened. (1)
- Harris-- casts Maxim as childish-- needs alpha blog (1)
- Harris-- CCR homepage-- nothing there. (1)
- Harris-- confidentiality (1)
- Harris-- CryoNet blog (1)
- Harris-- LEBuyersClub-- assays (1)
- Harris-- nepotism (1)
- Harris-- practical cryonics (1)
- Harris-- spin control for Kent. (1)
- Harris-- temp gradients (1)
- Harris-- temp gradients-- 2 (1)
- Harris-- truth (1)
- heart lung machine (1)
- Heatlh-- cell phones might trigger cell division (1)
- hinek 01-- joker lists cryonics blogs but not mine (1)
- hinek 01-- locked threads-- it's okay now? (1)
- hinek 03-- ads-- pays for forum to NOT put ad on (1)
- Hinek-- 04-- why can't we all be nice? (1)
- Hinek-- 05-- locked thread-- something I was attacked for (1)
- Hinek-- 06-- Maxim sets him straight (1)
- Hinek-- 07-- attempted moderation (1)
- How things go wrong (1)
- Human uniqueness-- unique human gene (1)
- hypothermic lung lavage (1)
- Hypothermic Medicine-- 225 hospitals have hypothermic machinery. (1)
- Identity-- Penfield-- Larouche (1)
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- Industry Diary-- 07-08-07-- Summer 2007 opens with SA Inc disgraced. (1)
- joe 01-- C81-- Joe knew C81 (1)
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- just (1)
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- Larouche- microbiology (1)
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- latest post-- how to see (1)
- Life expectancy vs. life extension (1)
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- lifesign monitors (1)
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- M+-- physical principles-- cryonics might violate... (1)
- Makow-- cause of WWI and II (1)
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- Marce Johnson 07-25-07-- no update. (1)
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- Mark Plus-- Albert Ellis (1)
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- Master narrative-- change the master-- 01 (1)
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- Maxim vs. Harris on SA-- Surf's up dude (1)
- Maxim-- 01-- Away for the weekend 09-15-07 (1)
- Maxim-- 02-- Bits and pieces (1)
- maxim-- 04-- post to cryonet on CPlatt (1)
- Maxim-- 05-- Verificaiton-- CPlatt's desire to have Maxim manage (1)
- Maxim-- C81-- Cryonet post (1)
- Maxim-- C81-- how would CI have handled it? (1)
- Maxim-- C81-- perfusion error critical (1)
- Maxim-- CF-- 01-- Bad Advice from SA's consulting MD (1)
- Maxim-- CF-- 02-- Critical perfusion info from SA case report (1)
- Maxim-- cf-- 03-- heparin and straight freeze (1)
- Maxim-- comments section open and valuable. (1)
- Maxim-- Harris-- non-disclosure (1)
- Maxim-- heart lung machine safer than Alcor's perfusion system (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- fees not clear (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- reports-- anomalies (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- reports-- missing (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- reports-- trite details (1)
- Maxim-- saddest part of this whole thing (1)
- Maxim-- silly SA perfusion training videos (1)
- Maxim-- Truth and Bigger Pictures (1)
- Maxim-- Truth in advertising-- CI-- 8-29-07 (1)
- Maximum Life Foundation (1)
- media-- not news (1)
- Media-- Swindle magazine-- Journalist interviews Ettinger and Best (1)
- Meetup-- JChapman (1)
- Melody Maxim 07-14-07-- Her own blog has begun (1)
- Melody Maxim-- blog (1)
- Melody Maxim-- SA Inc attack level increases. (1)
- Merkle (1)
- messenger (4)
- Microbiology-- Larouche references. (1)
- moonhoax-- buzz aldrin (1)
- mortuary refrigerators (1)
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- music-- takin care of business (1)
- music-- that's that way I like it. (1)
- Nanotech reality-- 001. Drexler vs. Smalley (1)
- Nanotechnology-- current role in cryonics (1)
- Newseek article 07-16-07-- no follow up on UC oxygen study yet (1)
- Newsweek article-- Chapman points to it in Alcor blog (1)
- Newsweek articles-- June 07 now this. (1)
- Newsweek-- Merkle listed both articles here (1)
- Nextropy (1)
- Nuclear war threats-- Not survivable. (1)
- nursing homes-- no lifesign monitors (1)
- Online communications-- CryoNet author archive + blog (1)
- oxygen-- Newsweek article (1)
- People-- (1)
- Perception-- Phillip K Dick (1)
- perfusion video-- Bowman monitor (1)
- perfusion-- CF ads-- perfusion services (1)
- perfusion-- first hour (1)
- perfusion-- live operating room video (1)
- perfusion-- organ preservation solution (1)
- Personal perfusion station. (1)
- Pizer-- marketing (1)
- Pizer-- priorities (1)
- point of order-- subject line length and archive list (1)
- Political philosphical context for cryonics (1)
- Population-- 6.7 billion toward 10 billion by 2050 (1)
- Posthumanism-- Larouche (1)
- Prioriites-- what are they in cryonics at this time? (1)
- Priority 1-- UC study Newsweek citation on oxygen introduction (1)
- protest-cryonics-- saying no to murder (1)
- proximity (1)
- pruning my hedge (1)
- Pscyocybernetics-- attention control (1)
- psychology-- American temperament (1)
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- Quitting time-- Aug 26-- at least end of Sept. (1)
- Quitting time-- changed my mind again. (1)
- Readership-- counter (1)
- Regina Pancake-- disappears into Alcor information blackhole (1)
- religion-- agnositics discuss cryonics. (1)
- SA 09-22-07-- Baldwin (1)
- SA 09-22-07-- Fahy grant + facility reminder from May conf. (1)
- SA 9-22-07-- Catherine Baldwin-- impressive background (1)
- SA Badwin 01-- background (1)
- SA conference 2007-- new facility + multimillion dollar Fahy grant (1)
- SA Inc-- C81 case-- handover not right (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- $8k price makes no sense. (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-16-07-- Andy didn't talk C81 into it. (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-16-07-- CI needs SA (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-17-07-- Did Zawacki tell C81 it would be worth it? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-17-07-- Maxim points to SA abuse of ATP on C81 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-18-07-- Best fails to answer Maxim on brain blowout (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-21-07-- critical mistake vs. mistakes were made (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-23-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-23-07-- Son couldn't wait 15 min. (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Andy didn't talk him into SA (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- ATP used or not? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Ben Best responds to critiques 8-13-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Ben Best-- CI cooling capability (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Best on brain blowout (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Burrhole size (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- case report review by Maxim (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- CI needs SA (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- CI's report on handover (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- comparing what CI would have done (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- CPlatt's report-- Maxim road to hell (1)
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- SA Inc-- C81-- Harris's overview summary (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it-- 05-- Maxim (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it-- Maxim vs. normanfell 05-31-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it?-- Ben Best answer (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it?-- Harris (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- illegit (1)
- SA Inc-- c81-- liquid ventilation or hypothermic lung lavage (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Maxim calls on Bull to comment (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Maxim on perfusion mistake 08-20-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Maxim's analysis (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- medical surrogate-- was the son a... (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Perfusion mess (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- perfusion-- ATP vs. low temp CPS (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- pull the plug decision may be wrong (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Son uncoop w. Team Leader 15 min-- 08-23-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Son was NOT faithful to fathers wishes (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- takin care of business (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Visualization of the brain-- 01 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Zawacki knew C81 (1)
- SA Inc-- Maxim-- Bad advice from SA consulting MD (1)
- SA Inc-- Maxim-- Money waste-- irrational (1)
- SA Inc-- Maxim-- Truth in Advertising (re CI) (1)
- SA Inc. 07-10-07-- FPatrol blows Maxim off. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-12-07-- Last quarter's commentary on SA. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-12-07-- Saul Kent's Failure (1)
- SA Inc. 07-14-07-- Cryonics world waits for SA Inc case report. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-16-07-- Guilty false advertising? (1)
- SA Inc. 07-17-07-- Best's conf. report (1)
- SA Inc. 07-18-07-- Maxim's SA/CPlatt attack raised to new level on her blog (1)
- SA Inc. 07-19-07-- Maxim's choice of media will determine truth-outing of SA (1)
- SA Inc. 07-20-07-- Alcor ought to retain Maxim to run new lab in FL (1)
- SA Inc. 07-20-07-- FD sharpens attack on SA (1)
- SA Inc. 07-21-07-- Maxim minimizes full attack with absence of alpha tags (1)
- SA Inc. 07-21-07-- Maxim vs. SA alpha attack blog (1)
- SA Inc. 07-21-07-- Maximm a victim of FD/CF mind control (1)
- SA Inc. 07-22-07-- SA alpha-blog attack link post on CryoNet (1)
- SA Inc. 07-24-07-- Outstanding debt of SA-- Kent agreed with maxim on HLR (1)
- SA Inc. 07-26-07-- No newspage update for over 3 months. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-28-07-- Maxim posts link to her SA critical review to Cryonet (1)
- SA Inc. 07-28-07-- Speculations on SA case report in CF (1)
- SA Inc. 07-29-07-- Maxim's SA/CPlatt blog linked from CryoNet author page (1)
- SA Inc. 07-31-07-- Maxim looks at bigger picture (1)
- SA Inc. 08-02-07-- Continued silence over problem-- no case report. (1)
- SA Inc. 08-03-07 Case report posted. (1)
- SA Inc. 08-04-07-- SA case report C-81 WTF? (1)
- SA Inc. 08-16-07-- Money spent on SA is money not spent on Alcor (1)
- SA Inc. 08-20-07-- Maxim expands on perfusion mistake (1)
- SA Inc.-- 09-05-07-- Outstanding issues not resolved (1)
- SA Inc.-- 09-13-07-- CF fight between Maxim and Harris is intense. (1)
- SA Inc.-- ATP is central (1)
- SA Inc.-- Conflict of interest-- Kent vs. Alcor (1)
- SA Inc.-- CPlatt refuses to consder heart lung machine. (1)
- SA Inc.-- CPlatt-- Invention (1)
- SA Inc.-- CPlatt-- inventions-- jet-powered ambulance (1)
- SA Inc.-- Google map review (1)
- SA Inc.-- heart lung machine (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim vs. Harris-- a review (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Alcor (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Alphbetical Maxim-tracking blog (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Blog (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Bull situation-- request for comment on C81 (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Chronology of CF posts (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- CI site has outdated info (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Computerized perfusion (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Conflicts in Cryonics (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Connections in cryonics more than generally known. (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Containers (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Empty promises (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- FAILURE to deliver promised services (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Harris not aware of what goes on and what results (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- How it went wrong (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Malpractise (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Money Matters (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Question of the day (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Ramp problem (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Road to hell (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- SA Case Report Review-- 8-13-07 (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Upstairs (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- What's needed-- Less toxic solutions (1)
- SA Inc.-- Priority concerns I see-- 7-12-07) (1)
- SA Inc.-- ramps-- custom built-- photos. (1)
- SA Inc.-- Saul Kent appearance not younger. (1)
- SA Inc.--Maxim-- Suspended disbelief (1)
- SA- Harris-- Where the buck stops-- FD (1)
- SA-- 6 month period with no Maxim-- George-- hits the nail on the head (1)
- SA-- Alcor Takeover-- 01-- Give up Saul and Bill. (1)
- SA-- Balwin-- FD points to SA pages being updated (1)
- SA-- BIZARRE open email address list from Baldwin (1)
- SA-- C81-- 50-- Matt cSullivan abstains from comment on Maxim's perfusion error thread. (1)
- SA-- C81-- 51-- Maxim away-- Harris bamboozles crowd (1)
- SA-- C81-- cannulae-- lots there-- disappeared. (1)
- SA-- C81-- Cold Filter-- George's overview (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- 01 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- 02 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- 04-- Zewacki (2)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 01-- Maxim responds to Harris. (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 02-- Harris insists on pointing to Maxim (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 03-- checkmate by Maxim (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 04-- Is Harris an idiot? (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- Harris questions it-- 01 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- Harris questions it-- 02-- wants to change the report (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- Harris questions it-- 03-- FD asks about visual-- 01 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error--- 05-- Zewacki-- absence of edema-- burrhole (1)
- SA-- C81-- disount (1)
- SA-- C81-- KEY POINTS [Maxim] (1)
- SA-- cannulae update-- no update post-Maxim-- 01 (1)
- SA-- cannulae update-- no update post-maxim-- 02-- Harris points to time Maxim there (1)
- SA-- cannulae-- 1-- George sees Harris's point as indictment of entire SA history. (1)
- SA-- cannulae-- Harris vs. Maxim-- Harris no response. (1)
- SA-- Catherine Baldwin-- [George] (1)
- SA-- Catherine Baldwin-- background check-- Ischemia company (1)
- SA-- CPlatt lied about CV Maxim (1)
- SA-- CPlatt-- buying off Maxim (1)
- SA-- CPlatt-- NDA-- Maxim-- Johnson-- (1)
- SA-- CPlatt-- trying to fire Matt Sullivan (1)
- SA-- critical error-- cannulae ARE relevent as moniters (1)
- SA-- critical error-- cannulae not relevent (1)
- SA-- critical error-- cannulae-- pressure moniter (1)
- SA-- disappearing things-- {Maxim} (1)
- SA-- expiry dates on drugs [George] (1)
- SA-- fraud-- job titles (1)
- SA-- George-- Harris-- 01-- C81 rich man discount (1)
- SA-- Harris out of the loop (1)
- SA-- Harris vs. Maxim-- 1500 cases-- DISTRACTION (1)
- SA-- Harris-- APOLOGIST FOR SA-- small cryonics organization (1)
- SA-- Harris-- Maxim's cv-- Maxim's response (1)
- SA-- management [Maxim] (1)
- SA-- management-- ultimate vs. day to day-- CPlatt-- (FD) (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 02-- rediculous posts on CF in mid debate on C81 (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 03-- space cadet ignores issues at hand. (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 04-- Vacuuous comments miss the mark (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 05-- warnings (1)
- SA-- Matt sullivan-- 1-- significance (1)
- SA-- Maxim Blog-- 01-- Important questions about SA (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 01-- Technical Issues (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 02-- Kelly (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 03-- Important questions about SA (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 04-- Calibre of personnel (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 05-- Harris's mistaken assumption. (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 07-- Maxim waiting for Harris (1)
- SA-- Maxim on Cryonet-- 06-- Cross posted to Cryonet-- Problems with SA (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- blog-- Google search (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- cannulae-- 01 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- cannulae-- 02 (1)
- SA-- maxim-- harris-- cannulae-- 03-- george (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- flamewar dousers-- Matt Sullivan (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- flamewar dousers-- Unperson (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Harris's overview-- 02 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Harris's overview-- 01 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Harris's overview-- 03-- prisons-- narcissists (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Hinek-- attempted moderation-- 01 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- missing NDA (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- VanSickle-- dismisses debate as flamewars-- 01 (1)
- SA-- NDA-- missing or stolen-- [desertrat] (1)
- SA-- new manager-- CAtherine Baldwin-- no listing (1)
- SA-- standby for CI members (1)
- SA--CPlatt-- unique equipment in cryonics beneficial (1)
- SA--Maxim-- Harris-- Maxim's motives-- 01 (1)
- SAI-- big picture (1)
- SAI-- CI case report disc'n with Zewecki (1)
- Saul Kent-- 5-12-07 (1)
- Saul Kent-- consolidation wish (1)
- Shutdown-- considering again (1)
- Space-- Shuttle launch (1)
- Space-- the final hoax (1)
- Stem cells-- cryonicists support embryo slaughter (1)
- Steve Harris-- Implies I'm mentally ill. (1)
- stocks-- publix (1)
- stocks-- xerox set to double over next 3 years (1)
- Stump-- Arizona regulations-- Reason artic (1)
- Sunday Cryonics-- People (1)
- Super Aliens-- Jesus was a super alien and more (1)
- Suspended animation-- "real" sa going on involves organ preservation solution (1)
- Suspension limit-- Cryonet-- Manning-- interesting topic (1)
- suspension of disbelief (1)
- Ted Williams-- White Birch Lodge-- New Brunswick Canada? (1)
- Tranhumanist Conference-- George Dvorsky blog (1)
- transhuman-- superhuman-- vs.-- 01 (1)
- Transhumanist conference-- Chicago-- Kurzweil-- Considering Kurzweil (1)
- Transhumanist conference-- Chicago. (1)
- Transhumanist conference-- Tanya Jones interviewed by Dvorsky on blog (1)
- Transhumanists-- Are TH'ers nothing more than neotanists? (1)
- ttacked again-- 18-- Accidently posted with cryonicsx-- shut down again (1)
- UAGA-- AZ update-- first since 1968-- review (1)
- Unbelievable idiocy-- relative matters. (1)
- Unfinished Business-- Ben Best's SA Inc conference report. (1)
- Unfinished Business1-- Looking at loose ends. (1)
- Unperson-- American anti-constitutionalist (1)
- Unperson-- attacked FD for burrhole size discussion (1)
- Unperson-- cryonics psyops guy mischaracterizes CF debate (1)
- Ventureville 07-16-07-- When is it proper to declare it dead in the water? (1)
- Venturists-- Marce Johnson no autosy (1)
- Venturists-- NO AUTOPSY card (1)
- Venurists-- No autopsy discussion for Frozen File readers (1)
- viscosity and misinfo (1)
- Vitrification-- Hypothermic vitrification is used in cryobiology and cryonics (1)
- Weekly Cryonics Summary 7-14-07 (1)
- Women-- feminism is a NWO strategy (1)
- World Situation-- Cheney VP of War Against the World of a Billion Muslims must be stopped. (1)
- World--01-- News briefs-- including Larouche (1)
- Worldview 07-14-07-- Irresponsible to fail to offer context. (1)
- Worldview-- 9/11 was a war game (1)
- Worldview-- 9/11-- Cryonicists on the record re: who did it (1)
- Worldview-- aerogel (1)
- Worldview-- bridge collapse in minn-- infrastructure (1)
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- Worldview-- bridge collapse-- update 08-04-07 (1)
- Worldview-- Cheney-- impeachment is on. 08-02-07 (1)
- Worldview-- ELECTION 2008-- Kucinich (1)
- worldview-- fascism finishes america (1)
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- worldview-- kucinich for pres (1)
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