I got a response in one of my posts yesterday indicating that SA services were in ADDITION to what CI could do for C81... and was reminded by the poster that C81 has never done standby and stabilization. In effect, CI did not "hand over" C81 to SA-- rather they did everything they normally do and, in addition, got C81 the service from SA-- professional stabilization. This persepctive certainly modified my view somewhat-- however it got me thinking down yet another line-- and that's where I want to go this morning.
Let's consider the idea that SA services were in fact IN ADDTION to what CI would normally do-- as the poster told me. What does this say about CI? It tells me that Cryonics Institute is "not doing cryonics" in essence. Because what IS "the essence" of cryonics? It's a chain of events-- and each link of the proverbial chain has to be fulfilled. As it turns out, and as I explore the CI site again, there is NO ATTEMPT by ANYONE in CI to "go fetch" their OWN MEMBER-- EVEN WHEN THAT MEMBER IS only 200 mi out!
In fact, what startles me now-- since I seem to be easily startled for some reason--- brain defecit maybe-- is that I suddenly realized that Cryonics Insitute has NO VAN. Hell, they don't even have a station wagon. They won't EVEN rent a U-haul truck. They've never EVEN TRIED to rent a truck with a lift gate and drive 200 mi to get a local member. They haven't even DISCUSSED it. So I asked myself "what on God's earth has CI been doing all these years--?"-- and what have they been doing "vitrification research" via Pichugan for ---what is the point?-- if you can't be on hand and fetch your deanimating member?
I haven't kept track of the criticisms of CI over the years-- but it just seems to be that it's probably useful to open up criticism full bore-- and lay it on-- because this is the only way that people interested in cryonics can really see the truth. What has happened here is not that SA is offering "far more advanced serivces" over and above what Alcor can offer-- as was the original thesis forthcoming from SA-- but rather what has happened is that SA is seeing a need in CI's chain of action that needs fixing-- and they're filling that need. Because WITHOUT SA-- Cryonics Institute cannot be said to be doing cryonics-- at least by the definition of 2007 standards-- even by 1969 standards-- if you compare what TransTime was doing back then.
The key question came up in my mind over the past day-- what IS cryonics in view of expected standards? Everyone attempting to do cryonics seems to have their own view-- and there is no industry standard specified. However I think what this C81 case with SA participation has done-- most importantly-- is act as a clarion call to the cryonics community of the neccessity for a clearly stated set of standards. The first standard is that if you have not got a way to be reasonably positioned near a deanimating member or vice verse-- the member has not got a way to be reasonably positioned near an Initial Perfusion & Cooldown Unit (IPCU-- my coinage)-- to be serviced immediately upon pronouncment of legal death, then you're not doing standard cryonics per the year that you're in. You're doing SUB standard cryonics, at best-- and NOT cryonics at worst.
As it turns out, the persepctive that I have here-- that is far more accurate a view of reality-- is that we see CI playing catch-up by employing SA. They have no choice. CI has, essentially, a gaping hole in their program. It's so big, that can't call it a cryonics program. What has happened here, in my view, is that they've hoodwinked the public, the media and the cryonics community, and worst of all, their members, for years. Because the very definition of cryonics MUST include at LEAST an effort to care for a cryonics customer/member from the point of legal death to the dewar. CI dropped the ball years ago. Actually they never had the ball. We thought they did. They deeked us out... like on a basketball court when you think someone has the ball behind their back, and they don't. Where'd it go?
If you don't think this view is accurate, then ask yourSELF, at what point does cryonics become NOT cryonics but freezing corpses? The extreme view was talked about in the past year or two by someone who wanted to disintur buried bodies and freeze them because there might be something left to preserve. Certainly we can all agree that that would NOT be cryonics, right? So back up from that point until you come to Granpa Guida-- who is stored in a shed in dry ice-- who WAS a TransTime patient at one time!-- which we should constantly remind people of-- and then back up from there to the guy in AZ who stored his wife in a freezer-- who ended up doing Arctic burial for her-- the expert on Arctic burial being none other than Ben Best, president of CI-- who got a call from THAT guys laywer-- who Ben says he referred to his website-- and for which case Ben CLAIMS to NOT know where that guy's wife ended up-- and so what I'm SAYING is LINKED-- step by step by horrible step into-- what we CALL "cryonics". And there you have it.
So what is cryonics? It's not surprising to me that a guy who thought highly of Arctic burial as a preservation method at one time became CI's president, CI having a MISSING component in their program to the extent that if you were buying a car with no actual wheels on it, you'd have to question the salesman about that really being a car. The salesman might say "well, it depends on what you mean by car". OR that salesman would say "you have to get your own wheels... we don't actually sell you the wheels". That's where SA comes in. SA are the WHEELS for the CI "car".
All current CI members-- even the "fully signed up" ones-- or the "fully funded" ones-- which was my previous contentious point in CI's methods-- are NOT "true members" because the "wheels are missing"-- in effect-- they don't have a protocol that is consistent with what we call cryonics. Their protocol is actually closer to disinterment and corpse freezing, arguably. Arguably, so are some of Alcor's customers... but the difference is in the PREPAREDNESS to play the odds IN FAVOR of a better cryonics situation. To this end, any CI "member" NOT signed up through SA, is NOT involved in "cryonics" per se-- they're ALL "prospects". Lucky for THEM however, and lucky for SA-- in a sense for finding a desparate need and filling it-- we see that there are 16 CI "prospects" who have decided to actually sign up for current standard cryonics protocol-- via SA-- as much of a 1600 mi stretch that is-- it's still an attempt. CI has 16 cryoneers. The rest of the "members" are dupes, desparate and poor. That's going to be my new "count". Remember the count?
Among those who are signed up for STANDARD and not sub-standard or Non-cryonics or duped-cryonics-- MUST be Ettinger himself-- and quite likely Fred an Linda chamberlain-- maybe-- however if you recall the history there-- it turns out that Fred was essentially accused of embezzling funds from a Saul kent Alcor-directed fund for the creation of something called Biopreservation-- which was what?- to redirect them to Cells4Life- my memory fails me at this point. Let's repeat that story, just for the purpose of inflicting even more emotional pain into people's lives than there already is. Wouldn't be ironic if Fred and Linda who FOUNDED Alcor who were dumped from Alcor-- who lost all their money-- and who the wealthy backers of cryonics-- yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Clause!-- refused to cover-- and now would be CI members who are signed on for SA coverage--SA being kent/Falloon's creation.
So, the idea this morning is that Cryonics Insitute has been PRETENDING to "do cryonics"-- and the reason we can say that is because we have an EXPECTATION just like in accounting-- where they have GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUTING PRACTISES-- GAAP-- We have expectations about what "genearlly acceptable cryonics practises" are-- and we need to state them and then compare each and every NOMINAL "cryonics" case with that standard. Of course the standard will change through time-- but that's okay. So does everything-- In Ben fRanklin's time, if he had REALLY preserved himself in a cask of madiera wine, we would have applauded that. Previous efforts at preservation with attempts to maintain structure for possible reanimation would similarly be thought of propertly as "retro-cryonics". Once LN2 was invented, then new standard would have had to have been consistent with that. Now that we KNOW-- and have known for years-- that immediate washout, preservation and cooling is essential-- then THAT is our standard. CI has made NO ATTEMPT to do this-- OTHER THAN their inclusion of SA in their program---
When SA first started interacting with CI, I didn't think much of it-- but it turns out that THIS is SA's Calling-- that SA has found a reason to be-- in their effort to bring CI up to current standards. CI should be flogging the SA service like crazy to their "Propects' because THAT is now the new center of CI... .the CI SA enhanced protocol. It's NOT an "option" as CI says it is-- it's a NECCESSITY. The problem is of course that SA is underwritten with millions of dollars and can't sustain that... .or can it? Who knows-- that's another question.
So this is this morning's Cryonics Context-- and as Howard Stern said about the ho's-- context is everything. It's just as true in cryonics as with ho's.
ADDENDUM
Just to be clear to new readers what standards in 2007 ARE-- let's look at Alcor's procudures page. [+] I haven't looked at this before-- and I'm a member-- it seems to me this page has been updated and even the protocol has been updated.... the thumper is new to me-- but then I've not been paying attention in class. Chewing gum reading Larouche. Oh well-- better late than never. This look at the Alcor procedures page is somethine everyone should do. Alcor needs a better "blogger" than whats-her-name and Alcor should also do more aggressive idea-publishing in AU-- if they're going to use that-guys' services. Conway, Wowk and SVS just don't cut it in terms of LEADING discussions-- you have to LEAD students-=- you can't just sit back and wait for students to present misconceptionsl.. so wowk is not a good discussion leader there. We have to think in terms of a cryonics classroom-- Hey I have an idea-- how about ME-- just keep readin gFRrozen files...
This MORNING-- today's lesson is a look at how CI/SA interact to make CI a "real" cryonics company-- which they were NOT before-- acc to standards SET by Alcor-- and so look at that standard now on that procedures page.
I want to see some animal's brain micrographed after the protocol described at the Alcor site--- why don't have that?
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Frozen Files Summer 2007 Alphabetical Index
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- 000-- 08-21-07-- Aerogel and world situation (1)
- 21CM (1)
- 21CM-- finance-- follow the money starting at 21CM-- cryonics (1)
- 21CM-- formulas-- 4 (1)
- 21cm-- New building. (1)
- 21CM-- patents-- numerous patents filed. (1)
- 21CM-- rabbit kidney 2005-- vitrification formula-- Alcor formula (1)
- 21CM-- rabbit kidney transplant 2005-- overlooked (1)
- 21CM-- Saul Kent-- kingpin (1)
- A-- C81-- personnel-- one anonymous made everyone anonymous (1)
- Alcor billing screw-up-- continues. (1)
- Alcor billing-- 02-- Steve Jackson goes public (1)
- Alcor Blog-- Chana deWolf-- interesting blog post-- 08-31-07 (1)
- Alcor blog-- Chana deWolf-- post gone (1)
- Alcor blog-- Chapman points to Newsweek article (1)
- Alcor blog-- Extensive reporting-- board meeting (1)
- Alcor conference-- blogs-- speakers should have blogs (1)
- Alcor conference-- Harris's topic not tight enough (1)
- Alcor Conference-- Oct. conf. features Bridge-- (1)
- Alcor conference-- promo not academic (1)
- Alcor conference-- speakers vs. blogging (1)
- Alcor- homepage (1)
- Alcor- Why have a conference Nov 2007? (1)
- Alcor-- 08-23-08-- renumbered conferences (1)
- Alcor-- billing bungling (1)
- Alcor-- blog-- chapman conference notice (1)
- Alcor-- board meeting June 30 (1)
- Alcor-- Canadian case-- funding problem-- (1)
- Alcor-- conference-- renumbered? (1)
- Alcor-- end of life optin-- not life extension (1)
- Alcor-- heart lung machine vs. Alcor perfusion equip (1)
- Alcor-- last online case report 2004 (1)
- Alcor-- Paid speaker program mistake. (1)
- Alcor-- Pancake disappears into black box (1)
- Alcor-- prepare for conference in Oct. (1)
- Alcor-- preparedness 08-31-07 (1)
- Alcor-- procedures (1)
- Alcor-- readiness personnel in question (1)
- Alcor-- renumbered conferences? (1)
- Alcor-- rescue team personnel (1)
- Alcor-- team members (1)
- Alcor-- threat of cancelled membership or non-rescue (1)
- Alcor-- weather in Scottsale (1)
- Alcorx-- Stumpx 2003-- Rediculous conversation (1)
- artifact storage (1)
- Ashes in space (1)
- atp use (1)
- attacked again 18-- mistake oops (1)
- Attacked again-- 05-- Nature of attack (1)
- Attacked again-- 06-- Classical SuperHumanism is unassailable. (1)
- Attacked again-- 07-- Practicality vs. Principle (1)
- Attacked again-- 08-- No joke (1)
- Attacked again-- 09-02-07-- Close blog to public (1)
- Attacked again-- 09-03-07-- end of frozen files (1)
- Attacked again-- 10-- test (1)
- Attacked again-- 11-- Issue becomes forced censorship (1)
- Attacked again-- 11.-- Thought control-- nanotech- immortality- Larouche (1)
- Attacked again-- 12-- final warning (1)
- Attacked again-- 14-- Psychological battle (1)
- Attacked again-- 14-- YouSendIt-- why did attacker use this? (1)
- Attacked again-- 15-- Attacker most upset with blog alerts (1)
- Attacked again-- 15-- ccryonics (1)
- Attacked again-- 17-- Might be enough to leave world affairs etc out of this (1)
- Attacked again-- 19-- I'm called a martyr for using cryonicsx. (1)
- Attacked again-- 20-- cryos remain out of touch (1)
- Attacked again-- 21-- Under seige (1)
- Attacked again-- 22-- Now the entire ColdFilter forum under threat by Matt (1)
- Attacked again-- closed blog-- good thing (1)
- Attacked again-- martyr (1)
- Attacked again-- renewed vigor on closed forum (1)
- Attacked again-- start over. 09-01-07 (1)
- Attacked again--13 -- one reader? (1)
- Attacked again--16-- Completion of the quarter (1)
- Attention direction-- blogs (1)
- Attention Steering-- Cold Filter and FD (1)
- Attention Steering-- Psychocybernetics (1)
- Audrey Smith-- cryopreservation pioneer didn't preserver herself (1)
- Australia-- Phil Rhoades-- 01-- reason for being in rural area (1)
- Autopsy-- Venturist religious objection (1)
- autopsy-- Venturist- card complete-- online? (1)
- Bacteria (1)
- Banned-- Flogging-- I even got banned for flogging (1)
- Ben Best-- contempt (1)
- Blog Design 07-14-07-- Newest design higlites alpha index. (1)
- blog mechanics-- 08-20-07-- returning visitors (1)
- BLOG MECHANICS-- Alphabetical index-- Ettinger used keywords from the beginning. (1)
- Blog mechanics-- click on month for daily digest. (1)
- Blog mechanics-- connected forum. (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counter (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counter-- 100 hits day 2 (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counter-- tiny counter one count per ip (1)
- Blog mechanics-- counters (1)
- blog mechanics-- counters all crappy (1)
- Blog mechanics-- Countesr-- first day35 (1)
- Blog mechanics-- FeedBlitz (1)
- Blog mechanics-- Google blogsearch lists BonHomme's Quarterly (1)
- Blog mechanics-- latest post viewing (1)
- BLOG MECHANICS-- Network54 to change-- Abandon it. (1)
- blog mechanics-- pdf (1)
- Blog mechanics-- pdf download (1)
- Blog mechanics-- podcast of this blog (1)
- blog mechanics-- returning visitors (1)
- blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- 4.5 (1)
- Blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- Bravenet graphs (1)
- Blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- hostile (1)
- Blog mechanics-- returning visitors-- hostile-- no truth (1)
- Blog mechanics-- threaded forum linked discussion (1)
- Blog mechanics-- work area (1)
- Blog writing-- Indexing-- How to use date stamps to log a story line. (1)
- Blog-- Contribute to this blog. (1)
- Bloggers amenable to cryonics-- Matus1976-- hypothermic medicine 08-31-07 (1)
- Bloggers amenable to cryonics-- Teri (1)
- blogging-- bigwheels who should blog (1)
- Blogging-- philosophy-- discussion is a distraction (1)
- blogology (1)
- blogs 07-14-07-- CI head cooling box. (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists- anonymous (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Aschwin and Chana-- technical cryoncis blog (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Mark Plus (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Mark Plus-- Atheism (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Mark Plus-- Comment on Zionism please. (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Melody Maxim (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Robert Ettinger. (1)
- Blogs by cryonicists-- Steven B. Harris (1)
- Blogs by pro-cryonics people-- Christian cryonics (1)
- Blogs by pro-cryonics people-- Unsane-- fear life (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics cynically-- in strict literal God context (1)
- blogs that mention cryonics favorabley-- Malanie Swan (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- GoodLifeGifts (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- Joreth (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- quistian zaine (1)
- Blogs that mention cryonics favorably-- V.R. Manoj (1)
- Blogs the mention cryonics favorably-- Melina Chok (1)
- Blogs-- attention direction (1)
- Blogs-- Frozen Files-- Spring 2007 (1)
- blogs-- google blogsearch under 'cryonics' (1)
- blogs-- primary source of sovereign mind thought (1)
- Blood subsitutes-- Biotime-- whatever happened to... (1)
- Blood substitutes-- plastic blood (1)
- Bob nelson-- update please. (1)
- brain damage-- Ben Best article (1)
- brainwave church-- 1.-- Invitation (1)
- brainwave control-- anna wise-- mind mirror (1)
- C81 (1)
- C81-- visualization of the brain-- Harris-- Zewacki (1)
- CADC (1)
- Cancer-- suppressed cure (1)
- cannulae issue-- see SA-- cannulae (1)
- Case reporting (1)
- case studies (1)
- Cases-- 2007 (1)
- Catholic church-- cryonics takeover (1)
- Center of cryonics-- where is it? (1)
- CF-- 01-- Ads (1)
- CF-- Ads (1)
- CF-- George-- oversight (1)
- CF--01-- Latest rounds by Maxim (1)
- chemrails (1)
- Christian cryonics-- blogger (1)
- Christian cryonics-- Jesus would have supported cryonics (1)
- CI-- Ben Best's article for local gropus (1)
- CI-- C81 critique and response (1)
- CI-- case 83 (1)
- CI-- field washout (1)
- CI-- mortician based program destroyed. (1)
- CI-- needs SA (1)
- CI-- playing catch up with SA (1)
- Classical FutureHumanism-- 00. Intro. (2)
- Classical Humanism-- cryonics (1)
- Classical Immortality-- physical AND Classical immortality go hand in hand. (1)
- Classical SuperHumanism-- a new context for cryonics (1)
- Classical Superhumanism-- CPlatt on Superhumanism (1)
- Classical SuperHumanism-- Google search (1)
- classroom-- cryonics education process-- cold (1)
- Cold Filter-- 000-- ENTER (1)
- Cold Filter-- 01-- Forum under legal threat by Matt Sullivan (1)
- Cold Filter-- cryonics discussion forum observations (1)
- Cold Filter-- FD-- Overview of Alcor-SA-NOT Ci (1)
- Cold Filter-- Hinek-- Mark Plus-- deletes link to MP blog-- 01-- what gives (1)
- Cold Filter-- Maxim-- SA site needs updating (1)
- Cold Filter-- messy-- alphablog organize-- Network54 (1)
- Cold Filter-- not a general discussion but rather FD controlled space (1)
- Comedy-- Lewis Black (1)
- computerized perfusion-- Maxim vs. FPatrol-- 7-10-07 (1)
- Context for Cryonics1-- A Universal History of Mankind and Radical Prolongevity (1)
- Context-- 01-- impossible to look at cryonicsx without context (1)
- Context-- Political philosophy for cryonics. (1)
- CPB bypass-- video (1)
- Critical Care Phase-- oxygen (1)
- Critical Care Reearch-- nothing on homepage (1)
- Cryonet Blog Lessons-- 1. Google blogsearch under keyword cryonics by date. (1)
- Cryonet Blog Lessons--2.-- Gina Miller posts her blog link to Cryonet (1)
- Cryonet blog lessons--3.-- Link to my blog (1)
- CryoNet-- Alpha-blog attack link post (1)
- CryoNet-- as blog (1)
- CryoNet-- latest archive page-- Google blogsearch on cryonics (1)
- CryoNet-- obsolete-- vacant (1)
- CryoNet-- PhilOssifur posts from 2006 still useful. (1)
- Cryonicists are not Anti-Zionist. (1)
- Cryonics Industry Moniter 07-14-07-- Alcor Conference Nov. (1)
- Cryonics Institute-- John Bull-- Cryonet (1)
- cryonics messenger (1)
- cryonics worldview (1)
- crystal coffins-- Mao and Brezhnev (1)
- Dave Pizer-- Property sale next to Creekside (1)
- Dave Pizer-- Stupid questions (1)
- death orientiation-- cryonics not death-oriented enough (1)
- death-- peaceful death scenes (1)
- Disappearing cryos-- Bill Voice- Michelle Fry (1)
- drop SA (1)
- Economics-- Larouche-- Will cryonics survive the coming crash? (1)
- Editorial-- 07-23-07 (1)
- END OF FROZEN FILES-- This is the last post. (1)
- End-of-life issues-- cryonics as (1)
- End-of-Life Planning-- 1.-- Truthful perspective of cryonics requires deathist thinking. (1)
- Engineering-- Ancient Engineers- L.Sprague de Camp (1)
- Ettinger-- CF post-- 8-31-07 (1)
- Ettinger-- fraudulent comment on pricing (1)
- example (1)
- EXERCISE-- Powerpulse self-experimen (1)
- Fahy (1)
- FD-- Alcor focus misdirection (1)
- FD-- Alcor SA and Kent - 08-31-07 (1)
- FD-- control agent should be avoided (1)
- FD-- debate ender-- who appointed him/her? (1)
- FD-- gatekeeper (1)
- FD-- git er done-- debate ender (1)
- FD-- look after myself only (1)
- FD-- malignment of blogs (1)
- FD-- nobody reads Frozen Files (1)
- FD-- Save the data-- drop the ideas (1)
- FD-- sharper attack roundup. (1)
- FD-- upset over blogs (1)
- feedblitz-- registered readers still getting this (1)
- Fellow Cryonicist-- harm-- Larouche (1)
- Females-- alien lifeform detected (1)
- FINAL POST-- New idea. (1)
- Finance-- World situation is OMINOUS-- THE END IS NEAR (1)
- Fitness-- abdominal muscles-- situps? thebean? (1)
- Flavinoid-- refers to Phil's Classical Future Humanism. (1)
- Flouridation-- What is LEF/KFC position?-- cryonicists? (1)
- Frozen Files-- Winter 2007 (1)
- fully funded-- definition (1)
- Futureneer 07-14-07-- Lobster Summit (1)
- Gatekeeper-- twisted-- calls my blog twisted and pleads for me to stop (1)
- Google blogsearch under keyword 'cryonics' (1)
- Google blogsearch-- cryonics 8-8-07 (1)
- Google blogserach-- cryonics-- reminder (1)
- Harris etc hard to track. (1)
- Harris-- 01-- C81 revelationst to come (1)
- harris-- 02-- supplied SA cannulae?? (1)
- harris-- 03-- thought SA had a perfusionist-- but after Maxim left?? (1)
- harris-- 04-- laying foundation for his defense (1)
- harris-- 05-- wasn't asked vs. worry (1)
- harris-- 06-- pins cannulae problem on maxim (1)
- harris-- 07-- nobody allowed to open kits ex. kelly (1)
- harris-- 08-- Maxim banded proper cannulae to put in kits (1)
- harris-- 09-- maxim points to cannulae in other cases (1)
- harris-- 10-- tried to trip Maxim up by naming surgeons in a cryo forum (1)
- harris-- 11-- Amazing round in CF (1)
- Harris-- 12-- Accuses Maxim merely of trying to damage SA as ex-employee (1)
- Harris-- 13-- cannulae-- maxim's responsibility despite being gone 5 mos. (1)
- Harris-- 14-- Answering tech questions with fewer insults (1)
- Harris-- 15-- In contempt of reason (1)
- Harris-- alphabetical order (1)
- Harris-- being played by Cplatt (1)
- Harris-- C81-- ATP abuse-- pressure-- damaged brain (1)
- Harris-- C81-- burrhole (1)
- Harris-- C81-- handover (1)
- Harris-- C81-- on services not contracted for (1)
- Harris-- C81-- still trying to figure out what happened. (1)
- Harris-- casts Maxim as childish-- needs alpha blog (1)
- Harris-- CCR homepage-- nothing there. (1)
- Harris-- confidentiality (1)
- Harris-- CryoNet blog (1)
- Harris-- LEBuyersClub-- assays (1)
- Harris-- nepotism (1)
- Harris-- practical cryonics (1)
- Harris-- spin control for Kent. (1)
- Harris-- temp gradients (1)
- Harris-- temp gradients-- 2 (1)
- Harris-- truth (1)
- heart lung machine (1)
- Heatlh-- cell phones might trigger cell division (1)
- hinek 01-- joker lists cryonics blogs but not mine (1)
- hinek 01-- locked threads-- it's okay now? (1)
- hinek 03-- ads-- pays for forum to NOT put ad on (1)
- Hinek-- 04-- why can't we all be nice? (1)
- Hinek-- 05-- locked thread-- something I was attacked for (1)
- Hinek-- 06-- Maxim sets him straight (1)
- Hinek-- 07-- attempted moderation (1)
- How things go wrong (1)
- Human uniqueness-- unique human gene (1)
- hypothermic lung lavage (1)
- Hypothermic Medicine-- 225 hospitals have hypothermic machinery. (1)
- Identity-- Penfield-- Larouche (1)
- Idiot savant-- calculator (1)
- Industry Diary-- 07-08-07-- Summer 2007 opens with SA Inc disgraced. (1)
- joe 01-- C81-- Joe knew C81 (1)
- Jon HInek-- Just for you (1)
- Jonano-- Expert posting of blog re Ben Bests SA review to Google blogsearch (1)
- just (1)
- Kent (1)
- Larouche- microbiology (1)
- Larouche-- Latest issue of EIR is out (1)
- Larouche-- moonwalk hoax-- why is he supporting it? (1)
- Larouche-- slander piece (1)
- Larouche-- suspended animation (1)
- latest post-- how to see (1)
- Life expectancy vs. life extension (1)
- life extension-- bogus (1)
- Life extension-- vs. life expectancy (1)
- lifesign monitors (1)
- Living trusts-- current interest (1)
- London vs. Lyndon (1)
- M+ -- money philosohpy of Tom Leye (1)
- M+-- physical principles-- cryonics might violate... (1)
- Makow-- cause of WWI and II (1)
- Makow-- feminism is a NWO strategum (1)
- Marce Johnson 07-25-07-- no update. (1)
- Marce Johnson-- no autopsy card (1)
- Marce Johnson-- SA price break (1)
- Mark Plus-- Albert Ellis (1)
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- Mark Plus-- How did you find Dvorsky's peiece on Jones? (1)
- Mark Plus-- idiot savant-- opinion (1)
- Mark Plus-- Peak Oil-- $77 pbarrel (1)
- Master narrative-- change the master-- 01 (1)
- Maxim (1)
- Maxim alpha-attack blog (1)
- Maxim etc. (1)
- Maxim vs. Harris on SA-- Surf's up dude (1)
- Maxim-- 01-- Away for the weekend 09-15-07 (1)
- Maxim-- 02-- Bits and pieces (1)
- maxim-- 04-- post to cryonet on CPlatt (1)
- Maxim-- 05-- Verificaiton-- CPlatt's desire to have Maxim manage (1)
- Maxim-- C81-- Cryonet post (1)
- Maxim-- C81-- how would CI have handled it? (1)
- Maxim-- C81-- perfusion error critical (1)
- Maxim-- CF-- 01-- Bad Advice from SA's consulting MD (1)
- Maxim-- CF-- 02-- Critical perfusion info from SA case report (1)
- Maxim-- cf-- 03-- heparin and straight freeze (1)
- Maxim-- comments section open and valuable. (1)
- Maxim-- Harris-- non-disclosure (1)
- Maxim-- heart lung machine safer than Alcor's perfusion system (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- fees not clear (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- reports-- anomalies (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- reports-- missing (1)
- Maxim-- SA-- reports-- trite details (1)
- Maxim-- saddest part of this whole thing (1)
- Maxim-- silly SA perfusion training videos (1)
- Maxim-- Truth and Bigger Pictures (1)
- Maxim-- Truth in advertising-- CI-- 8-29-07 (1)
- Maximum Life Foundation (1)
- media-- not news (1)
- Media-- Swindle magazine-- Journalist interviews Ettinger and Best (1)
- Meetup-- JChapman (1)
- Melody Maxim 07-14-07-- Her own blog has begun (1)
- Melody Maxim-- blog (1)
- Melody Maxim-- SA Inc attack level increases. (1)
- Merkle (1)
- messenger (4)
- Microbiology-- Larouche references. (1)
- moonhoax-- buzz aldrin (1)
- mortuary refrigerators (1)
- Movies-- Frozen Alive-- on Google video. (1)
- Music-- Khachaturian-- Sabre Dance. (1)
- Music-- Suspended Animation rock band (1)
- music-- takin care of business (1)
- music-- that's that way I like it. (1)
- Nanotech reality-- 001. Drexler vs. Smalley (1)
- Nanotechnology-- current role in cryonics (1)
- Newseek article 07-16-07-- no follow up on UC oxygen study yet (1)
- Newsweek article-- Chapman points to it in Alcor blog (1)
- Newsweek articles-- June 07 now this. (1)
- Newsweek-- Merkle listed both articles here (1)
- Nextropy (1)
- Nuclear war threats-- Not survivable. (1)
- nursing homes-- no lifesign monitors (1)
- Online communications-- CryoNet author archive + blog (1)
- oxygen-- Newsweek article (1)
- People-- (1)
- Perception-- Phillip K Dick (1)
- perfusion video-- Bowman monitor (1)
- perfusion-- CF ads-- perfusion services (1)
- perfusion-- first hour (1)
- perfusion-- live operating room video (1)
- perfusion-- organ preservation solution (1)
- Personal perfusion station. (1)
- Pizer-- marketing (1)
- Pizer-- priorities (1)
- point of order-- subject line length and archive list (1)
- Political philosphical context for cryonics (1)
- Population-- 6.7 billion toward 10 billion by 2050 (1)
- Posthumanism-- Larouche (1)
- Prioriites-- what are they in cryonics at this time? (1)
- Priority 1-- UC study Newsweek citation on oxygen introduction (1)
- protest-cryonics-- saying no to murder (1)
- proximity (1)
- pruning my hedge (1)
- Pscyocybernetics-- attention control (1)
- psychology-- American temperament (1)
- Psychology-- gut feelings (1)
- Quitting time-- Aug 26-- at least end of Sept. (1)
- Quitting time-- changed my mind again. (1)
- Readership-- counter (1)
- Regina Pancake-- disappears into Alcor information blackhole (1)
- religion-- agnositics discuss cryonics. (1)
- SA 09-22-07-- Baldwin (1)
- SA 09-22-07-- Fahy grant + facility reminder from May conf. (1)
- SA 9-22-07-- Catherine Baldwin-- impressive background (1)
- SA Badwin 01-- background (1)
- SA conference 2007-- new facility + multimillion dollar Fahy grant (1)
- SA Inc-- C81 case-- handover not right (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- $8k price makes no sense. (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-16-07-- Andy didn't talk C81 into it. (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-16-07-- CI needs SA (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-17-07-- Did Zawacki tell C81 it would be worth it? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-17-07-- Maxim points to SA abuse of ATP on C81 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-18-07-- Best fails to answer Maxim on brain blowout (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-21-07-- critical mistake vs. mistakes were made (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-23-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- 08-23-07-- Son couldn't wait 15 min. (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Andy didn't talk him into SA (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- ATP used or not? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Ben Best responds to critiques 8-13-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Ben Best-- CI cooling capability (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Best on brain blowout (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Burrhole size (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- case report review by Maxim (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- CI needs SA (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- CI's report on handover (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- comparing what CI would have done (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- CPlatt's report-- Maxim road to hell (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- critical error (1)
- SA iNc-- C81-- critical error-- 01-- venous system blow up like a baloon (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- FD asks did C81 want local (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- handover of C81-- board approval? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- handover-- 08-25-07-- retraction-- tentative (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- handover-- Ben's decision or consult? (1)
- SA inc-- C81-- Handover-- CI bylaws thin (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- handover-- no objection by members (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- handover-- retraction-- tentative (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Handover-- Would a will have stopped it? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Harris defends CI handover to SA. (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Harris's overview summary (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it-- 05-- Maxim (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it-- Maxim vs. normanfell 05-31-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it? (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it?-- Ben Best answer (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- How would CI have handled it?-- Harris (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- illegit (1)
- SA Inc-- c81-- liquid ventilation or hypothermic lung lavage (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Maxim calls on Bull to comment (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Maxim on perfusion mistake 08-20-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Maxim's analysis (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- medical surrogate-- was the son a... (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Perfusion mess (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- perfusion-- ATP vs. low temp CPS (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- pull the plug decision may be wrong (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Son uncoop w. Team Leader 15 min-- 08-23-07 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Son was NOT faithful to fathers wishes (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- takin care of business (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Visualization of the brain-- 01 (1)
- SA Inc-- C81-- Zawacki knew C81 (1)
- SA Inc-- Maxim-- Bad advice from SA consulting MD (1)
- SA Inc-- Maxim-- Money waste-- irrational (1)
- SA Inc-- Maxim-- Truth in Advertising (re CI) (1)
- SA Inc. 07-10-07-- FPatrol blows Maxim off. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-12-07-- Last quarter's commentary on SA. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-12-07-- Saul Kent's Failure (1)
- SA Inc. 07-14-07-- Cryonics world waits for SA Inc case report. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-16-07-- Guilty false advertising? (1)
- SA Inc. 07-17-07-- Best's conf. report (1)
- SA Inc. 07-18-07-- Maxim's SA/CPlatt attack raised to new level on her blog (1)
- SA Inc. 07-19-07-- Maxim's choice of media will determine truth-outing of SA (1)
- SA Inc. 07-20-07-- Alcor ought to retain Maxim to run new lab in FL (1)
- SA Inc. 07-20-07-- FD sharpens attack on SA (1)
- SA Inc. 07-21-07-- Maxim minimizes full attack with absence of alpha tags (1)
- SA Inc. 07-21-07-- Maxim vs. SA alpha attack blog (1)
- SA Inc. 07-21-07-- Maximm a victim of FD/CF mind control (1)
- SA Inc. 07-22-07-- SA alpha-blog attack link post on CryoNet (1)
- SA Inc. 07-24-07-- Outstanding debt of SA-- Kent agreed with maxim on HLR (1)
- SA Inc. 07-26-07-- No newspage update for over 3 months. (1)
- SA Inc. 07-28-07-- Maxim posts link to her SA critical review to Cryonet (1)
- SA Inc. 07-28-07-- Speculations on SA case report in CF (1)
- SA Inc. 07-29-07-- Maxim's SA/CPlatt blog linked from CryoNet author page (1)
- SA Inc. 07-31-07-- Maxim looks at bigger picture (1)
- SA Inc. 08-02-07-- Continued silence over problem-- no case report. (1)
- SA Inc. 08-03-07 Case report posted. (1)
- SA Inc. 08-04-07-- SA case report C-81 WTF? (1)
- SA Inc. 08-16-07-- Money spent on SA is money not spent on Alcor (1)
- SA Inc. 08-20-07-- Maxim expands on perfusion mistake (1)
- SA Inc.-- 09-05-07-- Outstanding issues not resolved (1)
- SA Inc.-- 09-13-07-- CF fight between Maxim and Harris is intense. (1)
- SA Inc.-- ATP is central (1)
- SA Inc.-- Conflict of interest-- Kent vs. Alcor (1)
- SA Inc.-- CPlatt refuses to consder heart lung machine. (1)
- SA Inc.-- CPlatt-- Invention (1)
- SA Inc.-- CPlatt-- inventions-- jet-powered ambulance (1)
- SA Inc.-- Google map review (1)
- SA Inc.-- heart lung machine (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim vs. Harris-- a review (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Alcor (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Alphbetical Maxim-tracking blog (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Blog (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Bull situation-- request for comment on C81 (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Chronology of CF posts (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- CI site has outdated info (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Computerized perfusion (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Conflicts in Cryonics (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Connections in cryonics more than generally known. (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Containers (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Empty promises (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- FAILURE to deliver promised services (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Harris not aware of what goes on and what results (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- How it went wrong (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Malpractise (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Money Matters (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Question of the day (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Ramp problem (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Road to hell (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- SA Case Report Review-- 8-13-07 (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- Upstairs (1)
- SA Inc.-- Maxim-- What's needed-- Less toxic solutions (1)
- SA Inc.-- Priority concerns I see-- 7-12-07) (1)
- SA Inc.-- ramps-- custom built-- photos. (1)
- SA Inc.-- Saul Kent appearance not younger. (1)
- SA Inc.--Maxim-- Suspended disbelief (1)
- SA- Harris-- Where the buck stops-- FD (1)
- SA-- 6 month period with no Maxim-- George-- hits the nail on the head (1)
- SA-- Alcor Takeover-- 01-- Give up Saul and Bill. (1)
- SA-- Balwin-- FD points to SA pages being updated (1)
- SA-- BIZARRE open email address list from Baldwin (1)
- SA-- C81-- 50-- Matt cSullivan abstains from comment on Maxim's perfusion error thread. (1)
- SA-- C81-- 51-- Maxim away-- Harris bamboozles crowd (1)
- SA-- C81-- cannulae-- lots there-- disappeared. (1)
- SA-- C81-- Cold Filter-- George's overview (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- 01 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- 02 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- 04-- Zewacki (2)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 01-- Maxim responds to Harris. (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 02-- Harris insists on pointing to Maxim (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 03-- checkmate by Maxim (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- cannulae-- 04-- Is Harris an idiot? (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- Harris questions it-- 01 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- Harris questions it-- 02-- wants to change the report (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error-- Harris questions it-- 03-- FD asks about visual-- 01 (1)
- SA-- C81-- critical error--- 05-- Zewacki-- absence of edema-- burrhole (1)
- SA-- C81-- disount (1)
- SA-- C81-- KEY POINTS [Maxim] (1)
- SA-- cannulae update-- no update post-Maxim-- 01 (1)
- SA-- cannulae update-- no update post-maxim-- 02-- Harris points to time Maxim there (1)
- SA-- cannulae-- 1-- George sees Harris's point as indictment of entire SA history. (1)
- SA-- cannulae-- Harris vs. Maxim-- Harris no response. (1)
- SA-- Catherine Baldwin-- [George] (1)
- SA-- Catherine Baldwin-- background check-- Ischemia company (1)
- SA-- CPlatt lied about CV Maxim (1)
- SA-- CPlatt-- buying off Maxim (1)
- SA-- CPlatt-- NDA-- Maxim-- Johnson-- (1)
- SA-- CPlatt-- trying to fire Matt Sullivan (1)
- SA-- critical error-- cannulae ARE relevent as moniters (1)
- SA-- critical error-- cannulae not relevent (1)
- SA-- critical error-- cannulae-- pressure moniter (1)
- SA-- disappearing things-- {Maxim} (1)
- SA-- expiry dates on drugs [George] (1)
- SA-- fraud-- job titles (1)
- SA-- George-- Harris-- 01-- C81 rich man discount (1)
- SA-- Harris out of the loop (1)
- SA-- Harris vs. Maxim-- 1500 cases-- DISTRACTION (1)
- SA-- Harris-- APOLOGIST FOR SA-- small cryonics organization (1)
- SA-- Harris-- Maxim's cv-- Maxim's response (1)
- SA-- management [Maxim] (1)
- SA-- management-- ultimate vs. day to day-- CPlatt-- (FD) (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 02-- rediculous posts on CF in mid debate on C81 (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 03-- space cadet ignores issues at hand. (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 04-- Vacuuous comments miss the mark (1)
- SA-- Matt Sullivan-- 05-- warnings (1)
- SA-- Matt sullivan-- 1-- significance (1)
- SA-- Maxim Blog-- 01-- Important questions about SA (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 01-- Technical Issues (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 02-- Kelly (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 03-- Important questions about SA (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 04-- Calibre of personnel (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 05-- Harris's mistaken assumption. (1)
- SA-- Maxim on CF-- 07-- Maxim waiting for Harris (1)
- SA-- Maxim on Cryonet-- 06-- Cross posted to Cryonet-- Problems with SA (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- blog-- Google search (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- cannulae-- 01 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- cannulae-- 02 (1)
- SA-- maxim-- harris-- cannulae-- 03-- george (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- flamewar dousers-- Matt Sullivan (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- flamewar dousers-- Unperson (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Harris's overview-- 02 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Harris's overview-- 01 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Harris's overview-- 03-- prisons-- narcissists (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- Hinek-- attempted moderation-- 01 (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- missing NDA (1)
- SA-- Maxim-- Harris-- VanSickle-- dismisses debate as flamewars-- 01 (1)
- SA-- NDA-- missing or stolen-- [desertrat] (1)
- SA-- new manager-- CAtherine Baldwin-- no listing (1)
- SA-- standby for CI members (1)
- SA--CPlatt-- unique equipment in cryonics beneficial (1)
- SA--Maxim-- Harris-- Maxim's motives-- 01 (1)
- SAI-- big picture (1)
- SAI-- CI case report disc'n with Zewecki (1)
- Saul Kent-- 5-12-07 (1)
- Saul Kent-- consolidation wish (1)
- Shutdown-- considering again (1)
- Space-- Shuttle launch (1)
- Space-- the final hoax (1)
- Stem cells-- cryonicists support embryo slaughter (1)
- Steve Harris-- Implies I'm mentally ill. (1)
- stocks-- publix (1)
- stocks-- xerox set to double over next 3 years (1)
- Stump-- Arizona regulations-- Reason artic (1)
- Sunday Cryonics-- People (1)
- Super Aliens-- Jesus was a super alien and more (1)
- Suspended animation-- "real" sa going on involves organ preservation solution (1)
- Suspension limit-- Cryonet-- Manning-- interesting topic (1)
- suspension of disbelief (1)
- Ted Williams-- White Birch Lodge-- New Brunswick Canada? (1)
- Tranhumanist Conference-- George Dvorsky blog (1)
- transhuman-- superhuman-- vs.-- 01 (1)
- Transhumanist conference-- Chicago-- Kurzweil-- Considering Kurzweil (1)
- Transhumanist conference-- Chicago. (1)
- Transhumanist conference-- Tanya Jones interviewed by Dvorsky on blog (1)
- Transhumanists-- Are TH'ers nothing more than neotanists? (1)
- ttacked again-- 18-- Accidently posted with cryonicsx-- shut down again (1)
- UAGA-- AZ update-- first since 1968-- review (1)
- Unbelievable idiocy-- relative matters. (1)
- Unfinished Business-- Ben Best's SA Inc conference report. (1)
- Unfinished Business1-- Looking at loose ends. (1)
- Unperson-- American anti-constitutionalist (1)
- Unperson-- attacked FD for burrhole size discussion (1)
- Unperson-- cryonics psyops guy mischaracterizes CF debate (1)
- Ventureville 07-16-07-- When is it proper to declare it dead in the water? (1)
- Venturists-- Marce Johnson no autosy (1)
- Venturists-- NO AUTOPSY card (1)
- Venurists-- No autopsy discussion for Frozen File readers (1)
- viscosity and misinfo (1)
- Vitrification-- Hypothermic vitrification is used in cryobiology and cryonics (1)
- Weekly Cryonics Summary 7-14-07 (1)
- Women-- feminism is a NWO strategy (1)
- World Situation-- Cheney VP of War Against the World of a Billion Muslims must be stopped. (1)
- World--01-- News briefs-- including Larouche (1)
- Worldview 07-14-07-- Irresponsible to fail to offer context. (1)
- Worldview-- 9/11 was a war game (1)
- Worldview-- 9/11-- Cryonicists on the record re: who did it (1)
- Worldview-- aerogel (1)
- Worldview-- bridge collapse in minn-- infrastructure (1)
- Worldview-- bridge collapse inside job 8/1 (1)
- Worldview-- bridge collapse-- new blog (1)
- Worldview-- bridge collapse-- ULF EM weapon (1)
- Worldview-- bridge collapse-- update 08-04-07 (1)
- Worldview-- Cheney-- impeachment is on. 08-02-07 (1)
- Worldview-- ELECTION 2008-- Kucinich (1)
- worldview-- fascism finishes america (1)
- Worldview-- Financial crash coming--08-10-07 (1)
- Worldview-- Iran attack-- Azerbajad dismisses possibility (1)
- Worldview-- Iran Attack-- Could be anytime now (1)
- worldview-- kucinich for pres (1)
- Worldview-- Larouche-- Posthumanism (1)
- Worldview-- Manned moon landing a hoax-- look at the lander. (1)
- Worldview-- money from Fed money trees (1)
- worldview-- moon hoax anniversary (1)
- Worldview-- moonhoax-- NASA Illuminist Luciferians not truthful (1)
- Worldview-- moonwalks faked-- Harris (1)
- Worldview-- Nuclear warfare (1)
- Worldview-- privatization of military-- Blackwater (1)
- Worldview-- Rense. (2)
- Worldview-- requiem (1)
- Worldview-- Various aspects 8-26-07 (1)
- Worldview-- Zionism. (1)
- worldview--chemtrails-- phx (1)
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