Comparing how CI would have handled C81 with SA

Today, I'm still thinking about how CI would have handled C81 compared to SA. Ben Best said SA did better than what CI could have done by, among other things, telling us that SA's cooling rate was faster than what CI could have done-- and he said CI's procedure would have entailed external cooling with ice at the mortuary. SA's use of the portable perfusion machine (ATP= air transportable perfusion kid)-- to do the initial blood washout with cold organ presevation solution made a big difference, he wrote in a post in Cold Filter. This-- despite SA didn't have trained people running the ATP. I became curious about what CI's capaibilites actually were since miniaturized perfusion equipment has been around a long time, apparently. I'm an Alcor member and I haven't looked at CI's material or cases for a very long time.

This blog isn't really a study of what is known in cryonics.... rather it's a study in MY own perceptions-- or in this case misperceptions. And that's okay. After all, it's a personal blog. My impresssions or misimpressions count-- to "me". Anyone is welcome to correct me and engage in dialogue using the no log in reponse area here-- and some have been kind enough and forthcoming enough to do that. I appreciate that. Of course, I could bear down and "read more".... I'm trying to do that too-- however the interaction of blogs, forums and reading-- combined-- give a topic traction.

The line of thought I'm playing with lately is that it strikes me as odd that the first "real case" that CI has had in awhile got turned over to SA-- partly as Ben admits- as a "win win" for CI and SA-- giving SA a chance to show its mettle. I disagree that that's a legitimate component of a proper decision. C81 was a signed up member of CI-- so if anyone's abilities should have been tested, it was CI's. C81 turned DOWN an opportunity to go with SA. The ONLY way I can understand WHY C81 was turned over to SA was that CI simply could not handle the case.

Starting with the initial cooling after C81 was pronounced dead-- I'd like to know if CI is using the ice slurry that their website says that they use.... rather than bags of ice at the morticians. Do they have a portable ice slurry cart? Maybe not-- I have no idea. Bottom line-- it IS possible that CI is so far behind in protocol that they don't qualify as a cryonics firm anymore. Certain standards pretty much have to be agreed upon by the cryonics community at large and I think we're going to have to start deciding, amongst ourselves, what constitutes "good cryonics" and what is "bad cryonics".

Personally, I've actually never indulged in prcecise technical details of what goes on in theses cases. For some reason, I've found them impenetrably difficult to comprehend. I don't know if this is due to my own abbhorance for things related to death, or maybe the fact that I'm stuck in some sort of ivory tower mindset-- but lately for whatever reason, I seem to more interested in the actual nuts and bolts of the procedures-- and seem to enjoy targetting a precise technicacl problem and zeroing in on it, magnifying it to look at it in detail.

In this case, what would CI have done at C81's bedside at the moment death was pronounced? What HAS CI done for members near their home office? To be sure C81 was 200 mi from the CI lab-- however this begs the question of what CI might have done to prepare the member and family to denanimate closer to the lab. I could check on CI's last "normal" situation for a member near by-- and that's what I intend to do.

I'm no longer going to post every idea I have in this blog. This has been a writing experiment. I find that for some of the detailed research notes I keep that the forum format linked at the top works better. More on that later.