BBest explains to FD why CI doesn't allow morticians to do field washout.

It's hard to put the perspective I'm trying to generate together. I do this for a few hours in the morning before work-- and that's it. The problem here-- today-- involves figuring out what exactly happened with the SA/CI C81 case-- where you had SA fly in 1600 mi with a tranportable perfusion system-- with nobody qualified to use it-- to C81 who was fairly local to CI hq and CI funeral director-- 200 mi out--

C81 told "hist firend" Andy Zawacki-- a key person at CI-- that he didn't think extra SA service "was worth it" despite, as Zawacki says, C81 could easily have afforded it-- I wonder if Zawacki is signed up with SA and if he told C81 it WAS worth it-- obviously C81's son thought it was worth it-- yet they all had to do the SA "extra" treatment of C81 "behind C81's back" so to speak.. guessing that he WOULD have wanted it if the price was lower-- and the price was lowered due to no standby acc. to Bbest-- however that's not entirely true--- there was a miniature standby-- and an expensive flyout-- with a team-- so that argument doesn't really cut it with me...

Then I started looking at CI's attempts to do local rescue and it occurred to me that they don't have an amubulance, and have never even rented a Uhaul truck to travel even a mile-- let alone a lousy 200 mi-- out-- in C81's case... so there's been no attempt-- other than training funeral directors-- but then FD pointed out that funeral direcotrs were banned from doing "washout-organ preservation-initial cooling-perfusion" -- the first perfusion-- because they don't do 'medical quailty" perfusion-- as distinct from maybe "mortuary quality" perfusion...

Now Bbest responds to FD and describes what an ideal cooperating CI funeral director WOULD and COULD do...

It is POSSIBLE that a funeral director could perform cool-down and CPS immediately upon pronouncement, could have a perfusion pump capable of producing physiological pressures, could have an organ replacement solution of reasonable quality on hand, etc. If such an exceptional arrangement is made then a funeral director could do a washout.

Well, my question is-- has CI tried to get at least their local finueral director to do this? Or... has anyone how has succussfully accumulated some net worth in CI-- thought about working this end of the problem?-- has Alcor?-- Should we have been discussing this with cooperating furneral directors all along?... My technical nistory in cryonics is VERY WEAK-- so this quesion might seem nieve but it's valid...and it's the way we learn-- it's the way I learn anyway.... Specificall-- what does CI's local funeral director think of this-- Recall that Bill Falloon was once a funeral director-- or a director trainee-- as I understand-- and so anyone in cryonics who BECAME a funeral director could logically move on that angle better... so Cryonics magazine SHOULD be running a series called "Have you thought about becoming a funeral director"???--- we need to look at the 18-35 year old generation right now-- to generate INTER-GENERATION cryonics support services-- OPPOSITE to what Pizer thinks-- where you create a perp trust-- which is really stupid given that cryonics won't survive that way.

If cryonics survives, we'll find a way to recover everyone including Pizer-- and provide him with useful employement and insurance and a meaningful life-- He's too worried about his money-- which is really fake anyone-- but that's an entire different topic. The key issue here is bbest's IDEAL LOCAL MORTICIAN-- so the question for Bbest is-- has he presented this IDEAL situation to HIS local mortician?


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