I'm studying Alcor's procedures page this mornign.

This blog is as much about MY understanding of the stituation as anything else. People made the mistake of thinking that Cryonics Cafe was an "open discussion" becvuase it LOOKED like that-- and it IMITATED that quite frequently... when in fact the more fundamental reason for me doing that forum-- now famous in cryonics history for 15 minutes-- as someone said-- was to enable ME to improve MY understanding and to take "open discusion" in the direction "I" wanted to go. What's nice about a blog like THIS is that my intended direction can't be interfered with anymore. Nobody can even post a new topic to replace my headlines. All my headlines are VISIBLE and easily read. And anyone can respond. This blog-dicatorship is real "nice". I like it a lot. So this mornign, using my ATTENTION DIRECTING DICTATORSHIP POWERS, I merely allow you to tune into where I'm personally going to read now... the Alcor procedures page.

Why?

I want to refamiliarize myself with this-- it's a new page to me--- and to understand "the standard" here-- in light of C81 and CI and SA-- because my previous post today basically accuses CI of doing "fake cryonics" over the years.... based on the idea that they haven't even TRIED to fetch their dying members. See that post for more. Where that line of reasoning brought me-- is to here where try to understand what the CURRENTLY ACCEPTABLE GENERALLY understood standards of cryonics practise IS in 2007-- which is most atptly expressed and carried out by alcor.

I think it's important to ATTACK the failings of SA-- and CI-- because if they're legit attacks-- then they expose the truth-- and there IS somewhat of a failiure to Expose truth in many ways... it's tough to do but it has to be done and it's more visible in the context of a attack and a criticism-- that way we can all understand the weak points-- and fix them. You can't fix problems if you don't understand them. I don't like people hiding problems. That's the last thing we want to do in cryonics... even at Alcor. Problems are interesting, understanding problems helps you understand things-- and most of all-- it helps us fix things.... so attacking something like SA's failure to have a competent person on the initial C81 washout/organ pres/cooldown using that ATP for instance-- THAT is a viable attack... and it should be exposed-- Maxim's still making headway in her attack on SA for that reason--

CI has no van, no Uhaul has ever been rented, they don't even know what a liftgate Is probably. So this morning, I attacked the whole history of CI-- what have they been doing? And what are they doing with vitrifciation protocol when they can't even operate an ice slurry bath for a dead body? First things first! There should be a protocol by now for the creation of a cryonics outfit. CI isn't even up to 1963 standards-- let alone 2007.-- unless you count in SA-- which was my point in my earlier post.

The standard for cryonics is being set by Alcor-- so in the face of all that has gone on so far this year-- I want to look at Alcor's procedures and equipment again-- and I think this would be a good time for EVERYONE to follow my lead on that-- esp. given the conference coming up-- which is a whole other schmozzle as far as I'm concerned. I think there's a lot of fluff in that conference-- and I think Alcor converences need to be totally revamped. But that's another post. Alcor Cryonics College-- should consist of monthly examinations of key items in cryonics and the way Alcor does things. We have the ptoential to turn our entire membership into "students'-- and we can train those students-- to understand and eventually to do things.

Here is the focus point of where I'm going this morning--

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Transport

If the patient is in a hospital where the administration is unwilling to allow cryonics procedures, the patient is moved to an alternate location while CPS and cooling are maintained without interruption. Femoral arteries and veins are surgically accessed and the patient is placed on cardiopulmonary bypass. This means that blood is circulated through a portable heart-lung machine (pictured below) that takes over the function of the patient's own heart and lungs. External CPS is no longer necessary, and is discontinued.

Within minutes, a heat exchanger in the heart-lung machine reduces the patient's temperature to a few degrees above the freezing point of water. Blood is also replaced with an organ preservation solution that is specially designed to support life at low temperature. If the patient is located outside of Arizona, they are packed in ice for air shipment to Alcor's facility in Scottsdale, Arizona.

This treatment is similar to procedures used by transplant surgeons to support the life of organs moved around the country for transplant, except that Alcor's procedures are applied to whole patients. Remarkably, studies show that whole animals can survive up to three hours of cold storage on ice using existing medical technology. Even longer periods can be survived if the preservation solution is continuously circulated. The MHP2 preservation solution used by Alcor was developed in 1984 during pioneering experiments in which animals were successfully recovered after 4 hours of bloodless perfusion at +4°C.

After large blood vessels are surgically accessed, Alcor’s Air Transportable Perfusion kit (ATP), shown in the photo below, is able to quickly cool the patient to temperatures at which oxygen is no longer necessary. The ATP also replaces blood with an organ preservation solution that supports life at low temperature (note the solution reservoir in the case on the left). See our online PDF manual (1.4 megs).

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For me the critical moment I'm interested in is cardiopulmanory bypass CPB? - the heart lung machine and the heat exchanger-- and the organ preservation solution... the MHP2-- developed in 1984???-- not advanced since then??-- and the ATP--

The way THIS page is written makes it UNCALR to me eactly when the ATP comes in-- is it at the point where CPB begns? This FIRST PERFUSION is distinct from the SECOND perfusion with organ preservative. This FIRST PERFUSION uses organ sustaining fluid-- used in organ transplant business. THIS is the key operation in cryonics that MAKES cryonics what it is-- in terms of 2007 standards... maybe in terms of 1984 standards too.. I didn't follow cyronics THAT closely in terms of the protocol over the years...

This Alocr page also assumes that the patient isn't allowed to stay put upon pronouncement... that he has to be wheeled off somewhere else-- when in fact, the EXTRA time in a hospital bed SHOULD be easily acoomodated-- how much time would be needed?-- these details should be expanded on with examples given in actual case studies.

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